Curse

upier · Jan 05, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Is the point of Guildwars farming?

If you answer yes to that question, then you like Ursan Blessing, because it makes hardmode farming easy. You don't have to compose a skill bar, don't have to compose a team, don't have to plan battles (other than make sure there's not too long delay between fights), and don't have to time or plan the use of skills. UB simply makes farming easy.

If you answer no to that question, then you don't like Ursan Blessing, because it removes the need to compose a skill bar, removes the need compose a team build, removes the need to plan battles tactically, and even removes the need to time the use of skills - with UB you just click them whenever they recharge, in whichever order. UB simply removes all skill & challenge, all that's GW is supposed to be about.

Personally, as I've said, I consider farmers to be the bane and scourge of Guildwars, and so I despise Ursan Blessing and the people using it. It is without doubt the most broken skill in all of GW history.

A Cosmo test!
Let me just get my thinking hat and a pencil!
Question 1.
I am getting all tingly!
Do I feel that PvE should be farmed?
Let's cross out that "No".

Ohh it's over!
Now let's see.
"You don't like Ursan".
Wait what?

Ummm and no.
Lets make Protective Spirit into the most broken skill ever in PvE because of it's masterful effort of singlehandedly paving the way for all the moronic ideas we ran into in PvE - including Ursan!

Numa Pompilius · Jan 05, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by upier

Do I feel that PvE should be farmed?
Let's cross out that "No".

So you use Ursan but don't farm? Really? Be honest here.

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Lets make Protective Spirit into the most broken skill ever in PvE

Aren't you thinking of Protective Bond? Even at 1 energy per hit it wasn't as broken as Ursan. There were always enchant removal in the game, which meant that there were always areas where invincimonks couldn't go.
But you're right that the invincimonk was the start of the brainless farming builds based on broken skills, of which Ursan Blessing is the most recent.
The UB "build" is the first brainless farming build based on a broken skill which is useful in all parts of the game, in all situations, which is why I consider it the most broken.

trobinson97 · Jan 05, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

So you use Ursan but don't farm? Really? Be honest here.

I farm but don't use Ursan. I don't dislike Ursan either, because it has nothing to do with how I play the game. I really could give less than a damn about how the next man plays in his instance. You really have no point and your logic is ridiculously flawed...honestly.

upier · Jan 05, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

So you use Ursan but don't farm? Really? Be honest here.

I don't even have GWEN. Yet I don't have a problem with people running UB. I actually advised it's use to my guildies as they wanted to do Rotsy.
And I rarely farm - just because it's so insanely boring!
The most farming I ever did was Splinter/Barrage Turai for my LSs.

And I prefer playing though PvE rather then farming it - which means bring PvP mechanics to the PvE battlefield - or dumping terms like aggro from my playing manual.

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Aren't you thinking of Protective Bond? Even at 1 energy per hit it wasn't as broken as Ursan. There were always enchant removal in the game, which meant that there were always areas where invincimonks couldn't go.
But you're right that the invincimonk was the start of the brainless farming builds based on broken skills, of which Ursan Blessing is the most recent.
The UB "build" is the first brainless farming build based on a broken skill which is useful in all parts of the game, in all situations, which is why I consider it the most broken.

Like I said - Spirit.
PS paved the way for the idiotic ideas of double or just insane damage dealt that resulted in people not being able to handle the game which demanded more and more insane skills (on both sides of course!) which led to the lovely damage fest that we call PvE today just because all damage taken is reduced to 10% of ones max hp!
IF there was no PS (and it's lovely counterparts - I am looking at you Shelter and others) - damage of 400+ that we see from bosses would be impossible.
It's quite simply the skill - or better yet - the skill mechanic that completely destroyed PvE!

enmitee · Jan 05, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

on topic. ursan is practical imo wen you dont have lotsa time to play.

NOTE i said ursan was practical not god mode. so im ok with it.

ok ok im not cool now for looking at a good side of ursan way.:]

tmakinen · Jan 05, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Wait, what? Since when is UB a farming skill? It has no healing whatsoever and no immunity against any kind of damage. What piddly healing you can set up through things like rit spirits does not come close to specific farming builds that grant you absolute invincibility against the farming target.

I do farm on occasion, but not necessarily what others do since I find it an intellectual excercise to cook up a perfect build for some particular occasion (like when I farmed one elite tome of each 10 professions just to entertain myself). However, I would never use UB for farming just because it's not good for that (and ANet obviously designed it that way, with full enchant removal on activation and lack of self heal).

I also readily admit that I'm often using UB when H+Hing in hard mode not because it's somehow imba (I could be far more deadly as my usual self) but because henches suck at positioning, pulling, aggro management, bodyblocking and several other things that even furious flagging won't cure, and UB enables me to survive while I lead my party. For those who say that I'm not playing my primary profession any more, so what? I am playing a tactical game with a party of 8 and my main concern is movement and target prioritizing, and the simpler my own skillbar is the better I can do my real job which is totally profession independent. And besides, often when I'm doing things with guildies and we get a full party but no monks I'm emoing with Glyph of Lesser Energy being the only skill from my primary profession. Well, I'm not playing an elementalist there so what's the problem? It's all about what kind of slot needs to be filled, and the slot that most often requires filling in a H+H party is the warrior (Koss is just not smart enough to get an invitation to my party).

Numa Pompilius · Jan 05, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

I farm but don't use Ursan. I don't dislike Ursan either, because it has nothing to do with how I play the game. I really could give less than a damn about how the next man plays in his instance. You really have no point and your logic is ridiculously flawed...honestly.

Speaking of flawed logic:
You just refuted my contention that people who use Ursan are farmers by saying that you are a farmer who doesn't use Ursan.

Not content with that logical somersault you then go on to imply that I may not say that Ursan is a broken skill because I'm not forced to use it.

Logic ftw?

Bryant Again · Jan 05, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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